Friday, July 21, 2023

1961 Fleer Autograph Project Part 38 70

It arrived and I am beyond excited.

Because I am a big jerk, I am going to put my white whale after a jump break. In the mean time, here is a picture of a white whale.

Let's run down the 1961 Fleer set a bit, if for no other reason than to prolong the reveal.  Though there is nothing stopping you from skipping ahead.  

The 1961 Fleer Baseball Greats set was actually issued in 1961 and 1962,  The first series, consisting of cards 1 through 88, was issued in 1961 and, to state the obvious, the second series of cards 89 through 154 in the latter year.  While cards 1 and 89 were checklists they did feature players on the front and I have seen autographed versions of each card, however I don't have either.  All of the subject players were retired, though Ted Williams had just retired at the end of the 1960 season.  Many of the players had died before the set was issued, but there were 99 players that were alive on January 1, 1961.  Three died during the year: Schoolboy Rowe on January 8, Dazzy Vance on February 16, and Ty Cobb on July 17. It is safe to say that it is improbable that there are signed versions of the first two and I consider it unlikely there is a Cobb. I've certainly never seen one. So, we're down to a total of 96 cards that could theoretically exist in signed form.  

In my previous post, I defined white whales as the cards that were of truly great players who died shortly after the set was issued.  I said there was four, but when I relook at it, there are only three:

Rogers Hornsby (d. 1963)
Paul Waner (d. 1965)
Jimmie Foxx (d.1967)

So, now you know the options.  Let's cut to the chase.

Jimmie Foxx.  First ballot Hall of Famer.

Fun fact about Double X here: In 1945, his final season, he actually pitched in 9 games for the Philadelphia Phillies, including two starts. Over the course of 22 2/3 innings he compiled a 1-0 record with an ERA of 1.59, adding up to 0.8 WAR. Not too bad!

There was actually a multi-card lot in the same auction that included the Paul Waner, but the reserve price was way beyond my means.  By itself, Paul Waner would be expensive but inside what I could budget for. But, even factoring in selling off the duplicates, I was not going to front up the nearly $4000 needed to even be in contention on that lot. So, I focused on this Foxx and managed to win. 

 I won't be able to go to a show for while. And, I am going to push finishing my 1969 into next year.  But, at the moment, I think it was worth it.

What I am listening to: California Dreamin' by The Mamas and the Papas


  1. Well bought. That dude was stellar.

  2. Looks to me as though he underlined the "mie" in his signature to point out that the card itself has the name wrong. Very cool touch if so. Certainly a great card to get!

  3. Wow, that is a big one! I can only imagine how much he must've cost, which is probably why you're putting a few other projects on the back burner for the moment. You mentioned seeing the Waner, but do you know if any signed Hornsby's exist?

  4. Actually, there is at least one signed Hornsby. I have a friend that collects signed sets and he is right now considering trading for it. If he doesn’t, I might consider trying to buy it in 6 months or so. The current owner apparently has a reputation for over-valuing cards for outright sale, so I wouldn’t consider it likely even if I try for it.

    1. FWIW, that Anonymous comment was me on my phone/